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A Clash of Cultures - Law Vs Law .

" Discovering how virtues in fearlessness, non-attachment, and awareness show the truth. "

Yes, this looks like the place for this ;

Background:

I have a friend , a full blood , very traditional , 'Clever Man' and 'Culture Man' Aussie Aboriginal. That means he is an accomplished man in his tradition and all that implies , and he teaches boys to be men in that tradition , as well as 'environmental' and 'survivalist' it also requires vast cultural, magical, spiritual knowledge . Its a bit hard to encompass in words (well, English words ) . I have been out of contact with him for some time .


I recently found out why the other day , well why at least 3 of those years, he was not around . A mutal friend told me about it :

" So, ' F ' ( my friend ) is in town sitting at a table out side THE Cafe ( a popular hippy / alternative spot ) having a coffee and a chainsaw starts up across the road . The council has arrived and it looks like they are about to start hacking into 2 huge ancient old native fig trees ( a main feature of the park and the small country town ) . F. is, 'What the fuck ! They cant do that! No one has said anything about that happening ! " So he goes over ;
" Hey! What you doing, get away from those trees ! " They tell him to go away, all is in order and its official . He says, " Bullshit ! They are Sacred Trees ! They MY trees ! " They laugh at him and ask , who said so ?

" My Grandfather did ! He bring me here when I was little, he said I got to look after these trees, they are special , and he did it because his grandfather told him to do it . They been here before all of them and been here long before this town was here , " Of course they dont care and continue so F. puts himself between the chainsaw and the tree. So they move to another tree and he does the same . A bit of 'cat and mouse' . Then some dick grabs a chainsaw and approaches him (probably trying to scare him off ) ;

"I dont mind, I'll cut through him and the tree ." and approaches , Oooooo ... wrong move.F. 'goes him' , now tough guy is in a scuffle with a chain saw between them so he releases and runs for it . Then F. runs around, chases the workers off, throws the chain on the footpath to smash it , then walks across the road to his table and sits there sipping his coffee ( note , he does not run off or hide ) .

Now, here is the Law Vs Law part .

Everything in that town ran pretty smoothly, considering the vast differences in culture , and the previous devastations - but they had things worked out . It went like this ; If an Aboriginal caused trouble (say he drove through your front fence at night ) , you dont run outside and abuse them ..... you see 'Sarge' , Sarge sees the Aboriginal Elders , the Elders see the family concerned and they fix the fence , or whatever . If Whitey causes trouble for Aboriginals, they see their Elders, they see Sarge and Sarge sorts it .

But for some stupid reason the authorities that be decide that this breeds 'familiarity ' and start seeding these type of places with 'new cops' .... ( poor Sarge ! ... by now he is like an Elder himself ) .

Anyway, what happens ..... you guessed it , new idiot cop turns up at the Cafe ( and this is a place where people openly smoked dope for years , even though its illegal there ) approaches F. and " Are you the guy that stole the chainsaw and threatened council workers with it ? "

F. " Fuck off ! Who, the fuck are you ? I dont know you ! I'll talk to Sarge or the Elders ."

Cop: " I just asked you a question ! Are you the guy that stole the chainsaw and threatened council workers with it ? ... and what is that sticking out of your top pocket, is that a bag of marijuana ? "

F. " For the second time ... Who, the fuck are you ? I dont know you ! I'll talk to Sarge or the Elders . I've told you twice ! .... dont make me have to tell you a third time . "

Cop ; " Right ! You are now under arrest ! " he comes forward to grab F ( wrong move, again ) , he jumps up, a scuffle starts, F. reaches around, unclips, takes the cops gun and lets off 3 in the roof of the Cafe . Which makes cop back off and F. points the gun at him; " This is third time ..... I dont know you , go and get Sarge or the Elders . Now fuck off ! "

The Cop runs off, F. puts the gun down in the middle of the table and sits back drinking his coffee again . (Note; he still does not run or hide)

The Sarge turns up ; " Goodaye F. .... havin' a bad day ? Is that one of our guns on the table there .... my constable 'lost one' earlier . "

"Yeah that's it . " and he leans back and puts his hands behind his head (indicating : no, I have not gone crazy, I am still the person you know and I am not going to lunge for it as you try to pick it up ) .

Sarge : " Right .... I'll take this back to the Police Station ...... and , ummmm , F. ... ya know .... I'm gonna have to take you back there too ! "

" Yeah .... I know ."

Sarge ; " A message went out , the Elders will meet us there . "

So, new cop got his gun back and F. got 3 years . "


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- why the hell are people that do not know what they doing allowed to mess up a good system with a 'new one' ( and I can assure you , if the idea to stop familiarity between citizens and police was based on fear of police corruption ..... it is not working ! ) .

another friend ( who does not know F. , nor any Aboriginals actually ) was listening ; " Urrk , some 'friends' you guys got . "

So I felt to explain something to her ;

" Everything he did was perfect , actually, for an intelligent person, he had no other choice ; he could not avoid his duty, which is Law for them, breaking Law for them is serious business , thats what holds everything together . He could not let his Grandfather down . Actually , one of those trees might be his grandfather now . And why should he go back to police station with strange unknown cop ? Maybe Sarge isnt there ? Maybe this guy will beat him to death there ... ( she instantly got that as she is an Aussie - for OS readers , Aboriginal deaths in police custody statistics are one of our biggest shames ) . He had to do his duty and he knew some 'other law' was going to punish him for it , but he wasn't going to give up just because of that . And yes, 3 years inside is crap .... but its better than being beaten to death in a police station cell . "

Thats how an Aboriginal 'clever' man has to operate 'down here ' .

Dharani and Sutra Recitation for Practitioners

Dharani and Sutra Recitation for Practitioners​


Here we share Mahayana Buddhist dharani and sutra texts that should be helpful for all wisdom seekers and practitioners of internal training.

By dharani we mean any spiritually transformative piece of Buddhist speech or text which, unlike mantra, has esoteric memory carrying properties that help to actualize the Bodhisattva path in future rebirths. Dharani is a spiritual device that transforms the storehouse consciousness (alaya) to recognize Buddhist teachings such as the correct view of Dharma and the altruistic bodhicitta motivation. This is especially helpful because spiritual powers based upon concentration and meditation aren't transferrable to other lifetimes (or other living beings either), so having a strong karmic link to teachings and having the motivation to practice helps to reacquire them. By sutra we mean discourse or teaching spoken by the Buddha, but in this context we mean that reciting the entire text itself provides some clearly defined esoteric result.

No promotion of other esoteric functions or more detailed study of texts is allowed besides mentioning the benefits and a brief general introduction. Discussion about the recitation practice and its results is encouraged.

For a related discussion about the other types of esoteric practices and mantra work, please see here:



This topic is chiefly intended for people interested in Buddhism, but anyone can freely recite the texts for their stated benefits. However, it would be optimal if the practitioner took refuge in the Three Jewels — Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha — before reciting and then dedicated the merits of the recitation to all sentient beings for the sake of everyone realizing perfect and complete Buddhahood. The act of dedication is charity which amplifies spiritual purification, so there is no actual loss involved in case anyone is concerned about such self-cherishing illusions.

First, the practitioners should have strongly founded confidence that the dharani and sutra recitation is helpful and will produce the actual benefit which the texts themselves claim. Otherwise, it might be difficult to keep up the motivation because recitation practice is supposed to give results over time. Second, it's noteworthy that having a closed heart or entertaining angry moods would most probably affect how the results are able to manifest in one's life, so adjust your attitude towards loving-kindness accordingly: Try to embody acceptance and especially gentle patience for all that is beyond your immediate concern. Third, it's always better if you learn all your text recitation practices from a Buddhist teacher directly: Traditional teacher might even be able to give oral transmissions which bestow extra blessings.




Ushnisha Vijaya Dharani​


This dharani is historically renown because of its power and applicability. According to my research it has a lot of potential synergy for many types of internal practice, so you could for example do it before or after your favorite qigong routine and see how they complement each other. There are no other cautions with this dharani except that practicing it a lot will likely result in karma ripening faster and in a fairly innocent manner: The karmic seed of a serious illness might become a headache lasting few days, etc. The dharani is supposed to have some healing qualities also and hasten the elimination of bad fortune in general. For more information, you could read the original sutra text containing the dharani.

The Sanskrit version of the Ushnisha Vijaya Dharani is easily available, so I decided to include here a Tibetan pseudo-Sanskrit transliteration which should be easier to pronounce for many people because of its simplified phonetics.

Tibetan pseudo-Sanskrit version of Ushnisha Vijaya Dharani​


NAMO BHAGAWATE TRAILOKAYA
PRATIBISITAYA
BUDDHAYA BHAGAWATE
TADYATHA
OM BISHUDDHAYA BISHUDDHAYA
ASAMA SAMA
SAMANTA WABHASA SPHARANA GATI GAHANA
SWABHAWA BISHUDDHE ABHINSINCHATU MAM
SUGATA WARA WACHANA
AMRITA ABHISEKAI
MAHA MANTRA PADAI
AHARA AHARA AYU SAMDHARANI
SHODHAYA SHODHAYA GAGANA BISHUDDHE
USHNISHA BIJAYA BISHUDDHE

SAHARA RASMI SAMCHODITE
SARWA TATHAGATA AWALOKANI
SAT PARAMITA PARIPURANI
SARWA TATHAGATA
MATI DASA BHUMI PRATISTHITE
SARWA TATHAGATA HRIDAYA
ADHISTHANA DHISTHITA
MAHA MUDRE BADZRA KAYA
SAMHATANA BISHUDDHE

SARWA BARANA APAYA DURGATI
PARI BISHUDDHE PRATINIBARTAYA
AYU SHUDDHE SAMAYA ADHISTHITE
MANI MANI MAHA MANI
TATHATA BHUTA KOTI PARI SHUDDHE
BISPHUTA BUDDHI SHUDDHE
JAYA JAYA BIJAYA BIJAYA
MARA MARA SARWA BUDDHA ADHISTHITA SHUDDHE
BADZRI BADZRA GARBHE BADZRAM
BHAWATU MAMA SARIRAM
SARWA SATTO NAMCHA
KAYA PARI BISHUDDHE
SARWA GATI PARI SHUDDHE
SARWA TATHAGATA
SINCHAME SAMASWASAYANTU
SARWA TATHAGATA SAMASWASA ADHISTHITE
BUDDHYA BUDDHYA BIBUDDHYA BIBUDDHYA
BODHAYA BODHAYA BIBODHAYA BIBODHAYA
SAMANTA PARI SHUDDHE
SARWA TATHAGATA HRIDAYA
ADHISTHANA DHISTHITA
MAHA MUDRE SOHA

Please Be Excited: A Brand New Forum Branch that Absolutely Nobody Asked for!

For our most esteemed readers, I hereby offer you the newest forum branch called Energy and Evidence:


The name is tentative and may change at some point, but it's aptly descriptive of what it is about:
For all purposes, the discussion is meant to be scholarly rather than practical, but this definitely isn't meant to encourage pointlessly meandering debate or intellectual snobbery. Take care that you communicate in good faith and with respect if you raise a counterpoint that could be controversial.

As a related matter, I have done some minor reorganization on a few forum branches so that the Talk About Good Practice branch now has a clearer identity and more practical purpose.

Prayers and Praying

Introduction to Prayers and Praying​


Prayers are used in many world traditions, but especially in Mahayana Buddhism and in Abrahamic religions as an essential part of everyone's regular practice.

The concept of prayer is simple: The practitioner appeals to the power of goodness and asks for divine help that aligns with the good cause that has stirred his heart. Everyone should now understand that the real and effective prayer comes from the compassionate heart and isn't robotic liturgy or empty words. A pure prayer can be very touching as it stirs the heart, but it should neither be motivated by nor result in any self-conscious or self-indulgent emotion.

A prayer can be completely spontaneous speech from the heart, but it can also belong to an inherited tradition of specific liturgical form. Formal prayers may even involve ritualistic aspects like using a specific melody and ritual implements. Furthermore, it should be acknowledged that prayers specifically blessed by enlightened almost always masters carry more significance and impact than one's own attempts at prayer.

Prayer is one of the safest internal practices in existence. The only real contraindications are severe mental health issues like psychosis, aural hallucinations, and paranoid schizophrenia.

From a technical perspective we could analyze different types of prayer and variations how to do them, but I'm leaving this as a short introduction for now.

Free discussion on prayers and their applications, your favorite prayers and experiences with them, and hopefully wise questions related to the topic.

When Masters Hide Their Skill and When "Masters" Reveal Their Skill in Public Demos

One of the sayings of late Grandmaster David Chan was that there are two possibilities for anyone claiming master status and giving public displays: a) they know a lot more and are hiding their actual skill since a public demo can be recorded and copied by people who learn from observation, b) they are a complete joke and embarrassing themselves to actual masters while scamming those who don't know any better.

In the following video, the late Chen Yiren (Chen Yikyan) does a public demonstration of Liuhebafa, and as one of the foremost masters of the art who is publicly known, take a moment to ask yourself which of the two kinds of masters he may be according to GM David Chan:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQwxNxfaSYo


When you have your answer, proceed to the following text.

Now, if you didn't already know, GM David Chan was a student of Chen Yiren, and yet Chen claims that Chan has a superior Liuhebafa, in addition to having real internal power.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTjKa9LR4OQ

Was your answer correct?

Try again with Stephen Watson and Michael Winn:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVZRMYqx0v4



We won't tell you the answer to either of those two.

Finally, we'll show you the public demo of GM David Chan (and his son Johnson):


Having seen videos of public demonstrations and two categories of masters who do so, the lesson we can discern from this is that the skilled masters have a variety of reasons for holding back their knowledge.

The main reason is as stated earlier, they don't want to reveal what they really know, but as a public demonstration, it can be considered part of a marketing and recruitment process. For the most part, you will have people who watch, nod and smile, and go on with their lives. You will then have a secondary group who are interested, who go inquire about further demos or openings for students, and it is at this point someone will become an outdoor student or invited to see another demo where they can see actual demos reserved for prospective students or friends and family, which are often done in privacy. There will be subtle hints that they know more, but it can also be seen as a challenge to those who do know.

As for "masters", you will notice that a common occurrence is their insistence on wearing "traditional" Chinese clothing as though they were requirements or uniforms. When this happens, this is 99.99% a fake. If you notice in Chen Yiren's video, he's not wearing "traditional" clothing, he's wearing a suit and tie. Any videos or photos of masters in the early 20th century wearing "traditional" clothing wasn't because it indicated they were martial students--it's what people actually wore before modern ways of dressing became dominant.

Let's also bring up a member's comments on this as well (thanks @freeform !)


That is not Taiji - there is nothing internal going on. Notice the low stances - the graceful movements and the fancy silk pyjamas (that's usually a dead giveaway).


That shows some real internal Taiji - doesn't look deep, strong, wide or particularly graceful... in fact doesn't look like much on the outside - because most of the movement, most of the power is coming from the inside. The body mechanics work on completely different principles - that's why you can't detect how the power is being generated.

Following up on freeform's own comments as quoted above, this "traditional" clothing is a lie perpetuated via both western misunderstanding from classic martial arts films and the Chinese Communist Party trying to promote (here comes that word again) "traditional" culture--a culture that they nearly completely annihilated in the Cultural Revolution.

"Masters" are also trying to market and recruit and will play tricks such as talking about how profound the art is and how they have transcended the martial mindset that is "violent" and yet the giveaway that they haven't is that they have no martial skill or understanding, for a real warrior is pacifist in both words and deeds. You will find them either arguing in a condescending and provocative manner or talking about how superior they are, dismissing others for learning to defend themselves as though it were a bad thing, whereas a real master and fighter will seek to both understand and help others be better with few words, actions, or leaving them be and ignoring them. The so-called "pacifist" individuals claiming to be "masters" will get into verbal altercations to prove their value--the same way a used car salesman will convince you that he is honest and you are getting a good deal.

A specific technique used in China under the CCP is to find the prettiest girls to demo the art--take a look at the clothes she's wearing in this video and don't get distracted by her beauty the way the cameraman was:


You have "traditional" music, "artwork" that was commissioned rather than actual masterpieces or even calligraphy from masters, a pretty face wearing those clothes, and a wide-eyed westerner caught in the Oriental Mystique. "Masters" who do not have the budget of the CCP rely on talking too much, especially about themselves and how others don't know and don't understand.

A true master will find themselves agreeing more and more with Mike Tyson's well-known quote: "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."

Be wary of public demos and don't take everything at face value--no matter how pretty the face may be or charming and intellectual the words they use to sell you the bridge they don't own.
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